Chris
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Post by Chris on Jun 12, 2005 20:25:53 GMT -7
I'm getting really tired of the tools I have. Mostly those micron tech pens and liners ... The brush thing is too scary and too messy for me, I'm really wobbly and it shows more in brush form.
What about quill inking? is there only one way to go about doing that ... the old school dip? any new school style like the brush pens?
Just to let you know, I HATE inking, and I always have ... nothing I hate more about doing comics.
So ... how much do you inkers charge per page? hahaha
... no but seriously ... how much?
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Post by G. Gerald Garcia on Jun 12, 2005 22:27:21 GMT -7
Chris,
There is a pen witha NIB tip, that is fed by a refillable cartridge. The manufaturer is TACHIKAWA, PENTEL may have something similar. The ink is permanent black, good thing. Tha BAD is the ink may thiken too quickly on the nib, from lack of use. There is also little give to the tip, limiting the variation in line.
My personal choice is still the refillabe brush pen, an extra light touch can give you fine lines. This takes control and practice. Tech pens can spoil you.
There is also the option of digital inks...give that a try?
G.
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Chris
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Post by Chris on Jun 12, 2005 22:50:56 GMT -7
ugh, digital inks. Yeah, that'll take a lot of practice. I think the problem I get with doing that (or digital coloring) is that my Wacom is too small, it's just a little 4x5 and it's hard to get nice smooth lines and precision ... and since I hate inking already, it's just not fun, my result would be very nice in the end, but I'll spend forever making it look good, way longer than I'd like to when inking.
I'm all for "very little line variation" since my style is more "very thin line" type stuff. You like the brushy Paul Pope type style ... I do too, but usually not for my own stuff, but I like it when others do it.
I'll have a look out for that pen. I live way out north so I don't get much of a chance to get to an art store. Do you think they carry those at Michael's ? That place is usually pricey (but so are art stores) but every once and a while they have these sales on random stuff.
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Post by fiona on Jun 13, 2005 13:04:42 GMT -7
I love quills, myself. I tend to ink pretty fast and messily, and pausing to dip forces me to think about what I'm doing.  But if you're not into that, you could use a calligraphy pen- those come with disposable cartridges and I haven't had much trouble with them clogging up. And some people just do really tight pencils and turn up the contrast in photoshop. |
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Post by ledsoul on Jun 26, 2005 15:55:55 GMT -7
The photoshop techniques of contrasting and afixing the curves to drop out the greys works to a degree, but you still need a really clean pencil line. Ive never been fond of inking myself as it was too messy for my liking at the time, so I havent picked up a pen since. (Mind you Im a novel person at this)
I would really like to learn how some of you ink. Perhaps is someone is willing enough, I would like to watch you work. (Im reaching... hehe thanks)
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Post by fiona on Jun 26, 2005 17:40:03 GMT -7
Maybe at the next comics jam? Added incentive to make it out.  |
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Post by dutton on Jun 26, 2005 18:09:17 GMT -7
I'd be willing to show brush and quill basics to those that are interested.
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Post by Chris on Jun 26, 2005 18:11:58 GMT -7
Maybe at the next comics jam? Added incentive to make it out. I honestly don't think our best inking efforts are put forward ... unless he wants to learn how to ink like you were dropping down an elevator shaft and the only way to stop it was to ink a panel. |
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Post by fiona on Jun 26, 2005 20:04:13 GMT -7
Well, it's just a convenient chance to observe a bunch of different people working. If we aren't all sketched out by the end, maybe we can hang around and do a couple more refined drawings.
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Post by Chris on Jun 26, 2005 20:43:51 GMT -7
true.
Honestly, I'm not even sure how I learned to ink. I think it had a lot to do with looking at black and white pages ... and discovering how the lines are made.
WHAT?? I can't use this Bic ballpoint pen?
My inking life changed when I discovered an art store with real inking pens.
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ledsoul
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Post by ledsoul on Jun 27, 2005 15:54:41 GMT -7
hehe, yeah I had... oh wow, still have a bottle of ink here, I just dont know what I did with all my nibs. This isnt the sort of stuff you just lay lying around when you have a toddler, LOL (You should of seen the fun she had with that catwoman sketch I did here when I left my pencils out. Lets just say, children are more anatomically aware than we like to think. But I digress.)
I think hitting a JAM to just watch all the practice and experience at work would be great. You will have to pander to my attentional deficiencies however, (a great falling of mine in ACAD was my inattentiveness... grrr and they had my records right there... anyway... as I spiral down that elevator shaft I realize that I forgot my pen at home...)
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Post by K. Tindall on Jul 6, 2005 20:47:27 GMT -7
This thread makes me want to go ink something...
I paint washes quite a bit, so I'm lost without some decent brushes. Unfortunately I'm very hard on brushes and they tend, alas, not to last.
When I caricature I used Staedler Mars brush pens... I love brush pens because I hate dipping into a well.
The girls at Colors see me often, put it that way.
Ciao,
Kelly
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